Forum control techniques

November 10th, 2009

This information was posted a few days ago by “jshowell” and was titled “Troll Techniques”, but since this type of activity is still going on here at the DP, I think it’s important to keep it front and center. This one’s for you, “ronbarr”.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution, misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a ‘uncontrolled forum.’

Technique #1 – ‘FORUM SLIDING’

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum – it can be quickly removed from public view by ‘forum sliding.’ In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to ‘age.’ Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a ‘forum slide.’ The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a ‘forum slide’ and ‘flush’ the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then ‘replying’ to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting ’slides’ down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.


A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at is ‘consensus cracking.’ To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made – but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger ‘evidence’ or disinformation in your favour is slowly ’seeded in.’ Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then ‘abort’ the consensus cracking by initiating a ‘forum slide.’

Technique #3 – ‘TOPIC DILUTION’

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to ‘drive in the wedge.’ By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.


Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a ’show you mine so me yours’ posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your ‘favourite weapon’ and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite ‘technique of operation.’ From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 – ‘ANGER TROLLING’

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes – without the requirement to ’stage’ a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to ‘lead’ the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you ‘do not care what the authorities think!!’ inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.


It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings – and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the ‘ultimate victory’ as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a ‘honey pot’ gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes.


Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.

Personal thoughts: If you stay around here long enough it becomes obvious that these techniques are being intentionally used by a small number of people to dilute the power of freedom minded people who are coming together here to discuss important and sensitive issues. This forum is a powerful tool, and its educational effects cannot be underestimated, especially for those newcomers who aren’t yet up to speed on the level of corruption in our government. Many people are just learning and coming to grips with the big issues. That’s exactly what the neocons DON’T want, and it’s why they send in their vermin….those who use these tactics to distract readers and keep them from hearing different viewpoints on things such as 9/11, Palin, and Bob Barr. The more ignorant the people are, the easier they are to manipulate and control with bullshit propaganda such as the bogus ‘war on terror’, 9/11 ‘debunking’, and political ploys such as Sara Palin’s V.P. run with McCain.

UPDATE: Well, of course the trolls are attacking, and are attempting to say that fights like this one are unimportant in an attempt to marginalize the above information. Here’s why I think it’s vitally important. The Ron Paul Revolution is about exposing the truth. It’s about returning to a Constitutional form of government. By necessity, that implies that we have been lied to and that we DON’T have a Constitutional government. If you dispute that, then you are in the wrong place, to say the least. How did we get from what the founders intended to the FUBAR mess we’re in right now? Was it a military campaign against the people of America? No, our freedoms and Constitutional form of government have been eroded over time by slick talking politicians, corrupt media, and people sitting behind closed doors trying to figure out ways to strip us of our money and basic ‘God given’ rights and turn us into slaves. Up until now, the insidious plan has been working, but as you can see, people are waking up. This forum is a great example of what the neocons most fear…..people thinking for themselves and becoming more and more informed about the lies and abuses of government which threaten to destroy the America that the Founders intended. This is not an ego thing with me at all. It’s a life or death struggle for the survival of the Constitiuion and America as we know it. “Trolls” (whether politicians, press, or internet trash) ARE what have slowly brought this country down, and the fight to preserve the principles of freedom as embodied by sites like the DailyPaul are as important as anything we could be doing. Sites like this are making a difference, otherwise the establishment wouldn’t be threatened enough to send in their lackeys to try to destroy it.

This applies more to organized groups like MoveOn, AIPAC, Truthers, etc. but we could do it too.

Dark Legions Archive on social networks

October 30th, 2009

We’ve finally joined the cretinous social media revolution, but it means easier access to Dark Legions Archive updates and events.




Check us out and enter to win a free kidney harvested from a political dissident!

Punch “this man” in the face

October 28th, 2009

“This man” is a twat. Whatever garbage the idiots behind this are hawking, lets make sure that when the actual product is revealed, the first thing people think of is giant dicks hanging from the groin of an ugly woman. Submit the article link and get in on the action by upvoting at reddit:

Malcontent Metalheads take over Reddit

September 10th, 2009

as you may know is a site where various links to other websites and articles are posted. Guess what? It’s a great way for malcontents such as ourselves to promote our ideas into a wider sphere.

It takes literally seconds to register there (you don’t even need to confirm by email). Having done that you can “upvote” articles and leave comments, both of which bump the link further up the page. You can also submit your own links.

The page is a good place to start. There are relatively few people posting there at the moment, so if enough of you brave and wonderful people upvote and leave comments at relevant articles, we can take control and dominate. If the crowd see many people commenting favourably about something, many of them will follow suit to be part of the comforting majority.

Here’s some links to get you started:

(the more upvotes and comments a submission gets just after posting, the better placed it will be on the front page. At the time of writing, this article is now placed at #1)

Information Terrorism

August 27th, 2009

Trolling is a form of terrorism, a form of control. As with fighting any kind of terrorism, we cannot give in to our fears. Trolls get delight in causing panic and distress in people. By continuing to post, interact, and go on with our lives, we deprive these individuals of their power. Our best defense is to ignore them and continue on as we normally would.

Let me tell it from a troll’s point of view:

What is popular always dominates.

What is difficult is never popular.

Therefore, our society self-censors and removes a wide spectrum of important ideas because they are offensive, require cerebration, complex, unpleasant or simply not absolute, meaning that they apply universally to everyone everywhere always and therefore make us feel life is safe.

Death is certain… life is not. We are surrounded by death, and the more we try to banish it, the more we make. Wars to end all wars. Nanny states. Jobs and social roles so tedious death seems positive.

Trolls are forest fires. We attack the weak and the innocent, consume the refuse, and spit out a nice uniform layer of ash which fertilizes new generations.

You — the vast majority, who are now in absolute power — have ruined everything good about humanity by making it “safe.” Trolls oppose that. Our goal is to hurt you and wake you up. It’s a form of love, if you can think that far.

Allahu ackbar!

Troll of the day

August 10th, 2009

John R. (Dick) Troll
Zionsville Indiana

For real, nilla?

College credits for trolling the web

August 10th, 2009

“Some undergraduate and masters level courses at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary require trolling as part of their requirements. In William Dembski’s classes on Intelligent Design and Christian Apologetics, 20% of the final grades come from having made 10 posts defending Intelligent Design Creationism on ‘hostile’ websites. There seems to be no requirement that the posts contain original writing, apparently cut and paste jobs are sufficient. Is this the first case of trolling the net being part of course requirements?”

People would learn a lot more if they engaged their ideological enemies in this way.

Calling out the inverse

August 4th, 2009

Most people are good with accusing others of doing something, but poor at seeing how their same critique might apply to themselves. The only escape from this cycle, obviously, is not to take on a belief that is one side of a two-sided coin, or part of a cycle. That means you need a belief that’s fairly eternal and distinct.

Reddit, while I love it dearly, has a prevailing dogma that’s a slightly more controlling version of an authoritarian state — because it is invisible and administered by many individuals and not one state. It’s like a cross between a loan shark and the Soviet Union.

Here’s my satire of it:

I am so afraid.

Maybe the crowd does not like my ideas.

Maybe they don’t agree with me that people who use the pompous, self-aggrandizing, pretentious term “progressives” are completely out of touch with reality.

Whatever will I do?

Without the approval of the herd, I am nothing… no one! I will not have dates or beer buddies.

I am so afraid, and alone.

Children, learn your lesson well:


And remember, kids, it’s not the same kind of conformity that corporations and governments preach. No, if you’re a progressive, you’re DIFFERENT, even if you’re still trying to control each other’s minds instead of collaborating.

So far, it seems to be stirring up the Crowd who are against any centralized power but perfectly fine with forcing each other to conform to “progressive” (pretentious) ideals so that none may rise above.

If you’ve got a Reddit account, join the fray!

Trolling metal hipsters

August 4th, 2009

I decided to troll some metal hipsters, since hipsters, scenesters and associated fakes have invaded the heavy metal community in force for over a decade now. My guess was that if I told the simple truth, it would piss people off more than some ironic, contrived, public-image-oriented construction.

It seems I was correct.

Here’s the original message:

You came into this genre, which had an idea of its own.

Because you are weak, and you can't tell the difference between appearance and reality, you started using it for your own ends. To make yourself seem cool, either blockheaded kvlt or obliviously "open-minded."

You thought things like [artist]Dethklok[/artist] and brainless faux prog bands were really cool, in that ironic kind of hip way you like.

Everything you have done has not been about the music. It has not been about art or culture. It has been about you and your failing egos.

You want to make it a joke so you feel better about being the hopelessly normal and boring people you are. You want to hide how ordinary you are. We are not fooled.

We are taking this genre back. You, scenesters and hipsters and other people who do not understand the message behind this music and the spirit of its culture, are blight on a good thing. We are not interested in you or your failings.

Here is our official communication to you:


Call To Action: Post This Everywhere

Call to Action: Bisexual Forums

July 21st, 2009

Aspies, Geeks, Malcontents –

Lend me your ears.

The posts of the man above have been an experiment in contrasting the social alienation and truth-mania of Asperger’s syndrome (which many of you have; it’s superior to neurotypicality for finding technical answers to non-linear problems) with the ambiguity of another potentially-ostracized but socially-accepted group.

Defend the rights of Aspies everywhere!

- Go to this link
- Read the posts
- Register (email verification, use a Yahoo! throwaway)
- For each post, generate replies with intelligent commentary

Your goal is to show how truth-seekers are marginalized by social intolerance of truth-seeking